An alert SFL reader spotted this car at a stoplight and snapped a picture.
I’m always a bit confused as to what the point of this kind of sign is. If this is outreach then what exactly does the driver want other motorists to do with this information?
I’m more convinced that signs like these are more analogous to flying Alabama flags of the sides of your car during football season. It’s just a way to identify which team you’re rooting for. “Go AVs!” “Hurrah old 1611!” “Git ’em KJV!”
FIRST!!!!!! Dang. 2 weeks straight!
I think people who advertise their Christianity in this way are confused. The scriptures say “By their fruits ye shall know them.”
Not “By the stickers on their bumper ye shall know them.”
Suppose I’m lucky then. Mine say “VLTOR” and “I’m your huckleberry”
I’m just thankful that they clarified:
This is the 1611 “Anno Domini” Bible! Not the godless 1611 “Before Christ” Bible.
The Epic of Gilgamesh?
Too bad they don’t know that A.D. comes before the year (i.e. “the year of the Lord 1611”) and B.C. comes after the year (i.e. “1611 years before Christ”).
Wow. I think that is right up there with my ‘BAD WOLF’ sticker!
I’m still trying to decide between a Bad Wolf sticker and the “Manufactured by Firefly” emblem.
I have a fairly typical ‘Portland Volvo of a certain vintage’ wagon, in that the back hatch is fairly full of stickers. I have Episcopalian/liberal Christian stickers, University of Oregon stickers, liberal political stickers, SCA/medieval stickers (HWAET!), Harry Potter stickers, and Doctor Who stickers. ‘BAD WOLF’ is the latest addition. One before that was ‘Allons-Y!’ (I also own a sonic screwdriver- it even makes the noise!)
I only have two problems with my bumper stickers. 1) I’m running out of room, and 2) People tend to tailgate, reading the stickers!
That. Is. AWESOME.
“Sings”? The bumper stickers are in audio version now?
I can’t blame George on that one. I’ll blame 5:30 a.m. instead.
5:30 looks like it messed with your prepositions too. I think it’s “flying the Alabama flags *on* the side of your car” rather than “*of*”?
Or maybe George was doing that? ๐
Darrell what is up with these hours you keep?
I wish I could see what the other bumper sticker says.
I used to work with a lady a long time ago that had “homemade” (like paper with clear tape over them) stickers on her car with various Bible verses. Oh to have had a camera then.
I may be fooled by localism, but I think the “Brady (for Governor?)” sign means it’s in Illinois?
It looks like the side windows of the gas guzzler are also covered with stickers or signs. Too bad I can’t read them.
I thought it was illegal to have stuff obscuring part of the windows or windshields like that. I had a cop yell at me one time because my EZ Pass transponder thingie wasn’t placed *exactly* beneath my rearview mirror.
But laws don’t apply to anything that is decreed to be God’s business, even if it looks more like “dangerous jerk behavior” to us heathens. And if they get a citation, that’s okay, because they’re being persecuted for their godliness. ๐
Near as I can make out, it’s something like “Happiness is (something something) God’s Law”. Living in? Always following? ๐
Didn’t know the Brady sticker referred to the governor of Illinois, my bad. ๐ณ
After a fair amount of squinting and googling, I think I may’ve deciphered it… happiness is: america under god’s law.
It shouldn’t, but that just sounds so ominous… ๐ฏ ๐ฟ ๐ฎ
obeying god’s law? I give up.
I’m not positive that’s the same Brady running for IL gov, was guessing, but there have been (and prob currently are) multiple Brady’s running for lots of offices all over the country, just the one that came to mind.
I should have read the comments before posting below, since my comment bears on the question raised here. I think I have deciphered the sticker by an application of earnest squinting and creative hermeneutics (the same procedure used by most IFBs): Happiness is knowing that GOD says “thee.”
Could be support for the Brady civilian disarmament campaign…somehow I doubt it.
Yeah, that one I doubt! ๐
It’s the 1611 ad King, James Bible.
Sure, I know him.
He’s sells ad space on those Bullshittem church pulpits.
He has that line of Fullashittem pulpit furniture as well.
Great guy just ask him.
Thank God this person has clarified which 1611 King James Bible they read with the A.D. posting. Don’t want to be mixed up with the 1611 B.C. copy of the King Jamesโฆ. ๐
I also thank God for this bumper sticker and others like it–people who are illogical or even a little on the mental side do not often announce themselves this well. Its nice to have a warning.
It doesn’t even look real, kinda looks like it was photo shopped in
I agree. It does kind of look photoshopped.
I think that’s because of the overall low quality of the pic. The upper stickers look like they follow the curvature of the window well enough, and the text below is faintly reflected in the bumper.
It should be AD 1611, I believe, and I suspect someone is trying to also stir up some outage over AD/CE change?
If someone really cares about the use of A.D., they should know how to properly use it in a sentence (as you pointed out).
It’s an exceptionally well-informed KJV-onlyist who even knows about the AD vs. CE question.
Is there such a thing? ๐
BG I have met a lot of KJV-onlyist, I am yet to meet a well-informed one. Can you prove the existence of this creature?
I meant well-informed relative to other KJV-onlyists, not in comparison to the general population.
They’re like unicorns. Or Bigfoot. Or the chupacabra. Lots of anecdotal evidence of their existence, but no solid proof.
The purpose of a sign like this?
I can’t help but think it’s to declare their superiority over other believers.
Um, if you don’t support God’s Bible, then your aren’t a believer. Why would you reject God’s Word?
Ultimately, I think the point is to win points within their cult; which is, or course, the same to them as winning points with God. But yes, this is done through putting down other believers and elevating your pastor and his pet issues whenever and however possible.
I’m mildly intrigued by the BRADY sticker in the upper right. Shades of Greg, Marsha, Peter, etc? ๐ or in recognition to the man who sacrificed himself to save Pres. Reagan? ๐
…ah, probably something to do with insurance. ๐
The driver may be a supporter of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence
http://www.bradycampaign.org/
… but somehow I doubt it.
Maybe they’re New England Patriots fans! Nah.
Hey, we live in America the land of Religious Freedom remember.
They are proudly displaying their god.
They worship the wrong thing.
so true
The driver should put the layman’s translation below the sticker: “I am right on everything…just ask me”. Of course you could also put the corollary “If you read anything else, you’re a reprobate”. Take your pick.
What a horrible thing to do to a Jeep.
AD comes before the year.
my ex-girlfriend’s brother in law was this way. he loved his KJV ONLY BUMPER STICKERS. He had one that said something like KJV !611 and then had a reference of that out of context verse in psalms.
Of course, with any good KJV 1611 bumper sticker, one must have a plethora verses of romans (the ones not about calvinism) of “believe on the name of the Lord Jesus and YE shall be saved.” (the YE is important).
Also, just from more insight from watching this guy, the bumper sticker doesn’t just stop at the car. You can put them or other signage on your house that states verses about everlasting torment in hell. What a welcome sign. I wish i was making it up.
Not to put too fine a point on it, pastor, but Acts 16:31 in the AV says “thou” not “ye”.
Must be my liberal christian education confusing me. All those translations rummaging around in my head…..THE HORROR.
Thank You Bald Jones. Lets go pray in Rodeheaver auditorium ๐
Good one. Gosh I miss Rodeheaver Auditorium and the mandatory Vespers that put me to sleep. Not been to a Vespers for 33 years and haven’t missed ’em.
You got to watch those vain worthless translations bro. They’ll dilute your faith every time.
Oh Darrell! How dare you compare this fundy abomination to my sacred Alabama stickers!
ROLL TIDE!
I once saw a car with a box of Tide detergent between two rolls of toilet paper displayed in the rear window,,, “roll, Tide, roll”…
Jeep needs to be washed. That’s a terrible testimony. It’s in the KJV somewheres. You gotta keep your car clean to be a good testimony. Maybe in Proverbs?
Ecclesiastes
It looks like he forgot to Armor-all his tires! What a testimony! ๐
No Armor-All on the tires?
Well, I’ve stopped paying attention, then.
…and fired from his staff position at NVBC.
Why does everyone always say that IFB teaches pretrib/premill? Don’t people know that they are postmill? According to them, Jesus has been reigning since 1611, when the KJV put him on his throne.
I know this is not true but, sadly, sometimes it seems like it is. When did it become okay to exalt your favorite bible version more than the name of Jesus? ๐ฅ
Why is a Pre-Tribulation rapture popular today?
http://tipofthetonguetheology.blogspot.com/2013/11/why-is-pre-tribulation-rapture-popular.html
That’s right up there with the sticker that reads, “If it ain’t King James, it ain’t Bible.”
There has got to be a way to make that into a beer commercial. ๐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8VHeVxT3Eo&feature=player_detailpage
Sorry, couldn’t resist. This is even better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ARSaFthv0nY
It’s pronounced “Shay’-mus”
The really hysterical part is that “A.D.” is Latin.
Good point!
I think the top left-hand sticker says, “Happiness is knowing that GOD says ‘thee.'”
The top-left bumper sticker says,
“Happiness is: America under God’s Law”
And here I thought:
Happiness is to know the Saviour,
Living a life within his favour,
Having a change in my behaviour –
Happiness is the Lord.
Hmmmmm. . . you’re probably right, but in good IFB fashion I’m going to stick to my interpretation in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
So this is the person the Tea Party keeps talking about– the one who wants Sharia in the USA.
Saw this on a car in front of me last year, at a stoplight on the way to work:
“Do you follow Jesus this closely?”
I think its required. Most churches that follow the Ruckman persuasion seem to have members who put this on their cars. I bet its preached from the pulpit that they must have them on their cars.
This brand of IFB also does the street preaching. So I imagine those that can’t/won’t go street preach are guilted into using the car to preach on the street.
I don’t think the Ruckmanites are IFB. They are a fringe group.
I’ve mentioned the BBC, Springfield missionary in Die Bundesrepublik auf Deutschland who had all of Ruckman’s commentaries and berated colleges like BJU for not taking a firm stank on the 1611 KJV.
This missionary warned me about BJU while I was in his church in 1985-86. He has disregarded me since I first attended BJU in the late 80’s after not taking his advise. What the hey? I’m not sure what to make of the nonsense.
I’ve always wondered what a “firm stank” was — is this related to today’s post?
Where were you stationed? Somewhere in the Wuerzburg orbit? I’m still living in Heidelberg, but working on Sembach since Heidelberg closed.
We sure do have more than our fair share of KJVO crazies over here. One dude in Heidelberg is a Ruckmanite. Kinda odd, since his congregation is almost entirely German now.
Hey BRO,
Okay, I’m going to go ahead and ask, did that missionary work only with English speaking servicemen and women, or did he also try to work with the local Germans? I mean does Mr. Ruckman think that there are acceptable translations of the scripture in other languages (maybe Martin Luther’s translation of the New Testament, for example) or does he think non-English speakers need to learn enough English in order to understand the KJV in order to be saved?
It would also be possible to get the impression that Mr. Ruckman believes that the KJV translators were inspired in the same way that Paul, the apostle John, or even Moses, for that matter, were inspired. Does the guy actually believe that? I love the KJV (felt the same way before wandering into Fundyland) but that doctrine goes beyond preservation and would actually be heretical.
Finally, does Mr. Ruckman believe that English speaking people who have believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, but who heard about Jesus through either reading from another translation or hearing the gospel preached from another translation are not really saved?
Sorry for the questions; you’re probably not an expert on all things Ruckman.
This isnโt designed for the โworldโ to see. This is just trying to get a shot in at other believers over a petty issue. Unfortunately, itโs out in the open for all to see. What a terrible testimony.
By this all people shell know you are me disciples, if you advertize your divisive squabbling.
This.
The motives behind putting this on a van is one of the reasons I left IFB. But experiencing it inspired me to want to spread the truth more.
What inspired me to create Tip of the Tongue Theology?
http://tipofthetonguetheology.blogspot.com/2013/11/what-inspired-me-to-create-tip-of.html
…I mean “jeep” not “van” ๐
…down by the river?
A good friend recommended me to Stuff Fundies Like. Is this about KJV only bumper stickers?
This particular post is/was.
Nah, we try to skewer other sacred cows as well.
Dear BRO,
You oughta have listened to that crazy Ruckmanite missionary in 1985. It woulda kept you out of that crazy school that I graduated from but Never List On My Resume. I had to go get an accredited degree after the World’s Most Useless University finished screwing me out of 4 years of my life.
Sincerely,
BJG
Dear BJG,
Like you,I had to go back to school to get a worthwhile degree after graduating from Hyles. Career wise and financially I’ll never recover from my time in extreme fundamentalism, but the worst part about my time there was how I allowed it to mar my relationship with God.
Peace,
Ruckman you say? You would think that even the “KJV onlyists” would have dropped him years ago. Especially since he preaches aliens and segregation.
I know a guy in town who owns a “Ruckman Reference” bible. ๐ณ